julie's men

the thug is a def no.
i don't know who jeff is - but if he leans toward thug, he's a no too.
as for the joe vs peter debate . . . i'd prefer peter but i'll settle for joe. i understand that there are a whole lot more issues surrounding the will they or won't they of you and peter. acknowledged, joe is MUCH easier, while still not reducing your standards to sub-thug level. and not risking that whole if it doesn't work, you've lost a friend drama. so, i vote yes for the date with joe. especially if he tells you that your friends are really cool (aka his club buddies anusha and i)